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Stanley A Meyer
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Added July 22, 2010

Last updated - July 22 2010

People are fond of saying that this is a free country. That is usually coupled with some reference to doing whatever you want; no one can stop you from being you. This includes frauds, charlatans and those people who want to believe in the alien crash in Roswell, New Mexico, among other things. This group also includes the conspiracy theory nut jobs who abound. We believe that Stanley A. Meyer belongs in that group with the frauds and we are going to tell you why.

We do not have a problem with people who wear tin foil hats if that is what they really want to do. Our problem comes when they foist these delusions upon the rest of the population. And they do. And there is never a shortage of hustlers.

Stanley A. Meyer comes to these pages compliments of one Michael Meyer, we presume he is a whack-job relative, and the efforts of the Stanley A. Meyer Estate who lied to eBay when Michael Meyer, and the Stanley A. Meyer Estate, ordered eBay to terminate a collection of listings for various materials relating to Stanley A. Meyer and his phony hydrogen gas generator for automobiles. If it were not for the harm done, this episode would be punctuated with clowns running around with seltzer bottles. Not only did Michael Meyer, and the Stanley A. Meyer Estate, perjure themselves, but eBay acted like the only vehicle available was a clown car.
Meyer is a minimal web site with various links to the life and work of Stanley A. Meyer. Our problem with the site is that, like some of the nut jobs who tout the life and work of Stanley A. Meyer, the web site is anonymously registered so you really have no idea who is running it. What do they fear? Probably being exposed as nut jobs.

Stanley A. Meyer's claim to fame but not to fortune appears to revolve his bogus assertion that he had developed a method whereby he could convert plain water into fuel to run an automobile. And, he filed for and received at least 13 patents on this and other pie-in-the-sky ideas. Bear in mind that a patent application does not require that the "inventor" include a working model of the idea. All that is needed is a sufficiently confusing description of the claims so that the examiner thinks the idea "might" work. However, in 1996 an Ohio court found the claims by Stanley A. Meyer concerning the water fuel cell to be fraudulent. Of course this did not stop him, or his conspiracy theory minions, from claiming foul and going merrily on their way, skipping down the loony trail.

Stanley Meyer died suddenly on March 21, 1998 after dining at a restaurant. According to the conspiracy theory minions, Stanley A. Meyer was murdered by the government agents who fly about in those pesky black helicopters. According to one web site, he was having lunch at a Cracker barrel with some officials from N.A.T.O. (Yeah, right). They toasted using glasses of cranberry juice after which Stanley Meyer reportedly jumped up and ran outside claiming he had been poisoned. This description is somewhat lacking. The Franklin County, Ohio coroner concluded that Meyer had died of a cerebral aneurysm but that gets omitted by the nut jobs that want Stan The Man as a martyr.

In any event, no one has been able to take the expired patents of Stanley A. Meyer and build a working model that lives up to the claims made. It seems to us that given the multitude of whack-job followers of Stanley A. Meyer, someone would have cashed in on this Earth-shattering advancement. Unless of course, it was, and still is, a fraud. Did we mention that the only person who claims to have heard Stanley A. Meyer make the claim that he had been poisoned, was his brother? Convenient.

On February 23, 2008, eBay terminated some 20 listings for various products that were copies of some 23 patents once owned by Stanley A. Meyer. Since the patents had expired, they were all public domain. Items that are public domain are free for anyone to copy and either use or to sell. The seller was perfectly within his rights to offer for sale these copies of the patents. But, Michael Meyer, and the Stanley A. Meyer Estate, did not care a whit about the rights of the seller so they lied to eBay:

MC019 eBay Listing Removed: Copyright Violation - Unauthorized Item ( 183429975)

The rights owner, Stanley A. Meyer Estate, notified eBay that this listing violates intellectual property rights. When eBay receives a report of this type of violation, we remove the listing to comply with the law.

You can send an email to:

The problem the seller had was that Michael Meyer never responded to emails as to why the listings had been terminated. Typical for lying scumbags. But, not to be deterred, the seller immediately filed a counter notice which gave Michael Meyer, and the Stanley A. Meyer Estate, until March 10, 2008, to file an action seeking a court order to prohibit the reinstatement of the items. Bring on the clowns.

On March 1, 2008. eBay sent the seller another email terminating 14 of the listings that eBay already had terminated. What? Does eBay keep track of what it is doing? The second "terminations" made the seller a repeat offender. Then eBay suspended the seller for a mistake that eBay made. On March 10 eBay corrected the error and reinstated the seller's account. Whack! A pie in the face. Then on March 12, eBay again terminated listings, some 32 of them.

However, We have received a copy of the motion for an injunction from the Stanley A. Meyer Estate enjoining you from listing items subject to the counter notice you filed. This listing has been ended and all your fees have been refunded.

The above statement is immediately suspect because one does not file a motion for an order without first filing a complaint with the court. Why does not the law office of eBay already know this? Even a first-year law student would know this. So, how stupid are the lawyers at eBay? And why would not eBay supply the seller with a copy of the "order"? After some two weeks of emailing the eBay lawyers every day, Sean Chafin at eBay finally responded and told the seller to call him. Why would it take the eBay lawyers two weeks to respond to these emails? Are they just lazy or plain stupid, or perhaps both? We think both.

Turns out that the "order" that Michael Meyer, and the Stanley A. Meyer Estate, sent to eBay, had a stamp on it that showed it had been filed with the court. The problem was that the judge did not exist. eBay was not happy when they confirmed the order was a fake, Sean Chaffin was authorized to hire an outside investigator to track the people down that were behind the Stanley A Meyer Estate filing. eBay would not share any information with the seller about the investigation but three sellers were reinstated and all the strikes were removed by Chaffin concerning Stanley A Meyer.

By not sharing the information and by not going public, eBay plays "cover the eBay ass first" game whereby the main rule is do nothing publicly that will make eBay look silly. The real harm is that the fraud was deliberate and equity demands that the perpetrator be publicly punished for the crime. Going public would be a warning to others to not mess with eBay. But that is not the message that eBay puts forward. The victim, the eBay seller, had to spend a lot of time fighting the eBay bureaucracy to get eBay to see that the entire issue was phony. eBay's own lawyers took weeks to get involved in what was an obvious fake. And then, eBay took no revenge. Pathetic. But, that's eBay.

Stanley A. Meyer has his nut job supporters. One such yo-yo is a Kelvin Jobling in Australia who hosts a web site named

The goal of this web site is to explain the science behind Stanley Meyers water fuel cell. As a group we will study his theory, patents, and related information. The objective will be to replicate the water fuel cell. The completion of our work will be proof to the world of the validity of the water fuel cell.

Right. Where is the proof? We are guessing somewhere in the head of Kelvin with all of those voices that keep talking to him. Kelvin rants on about this and that, mostly finding reasons that explain why Meyer failed miserably to prove his contraption was really viable, mostly using excuses given by Meyer. Other sites, like,, and, echo the same. Not one offers any real proof that Meyer was a genuine innovator while using tired excuses as to how the system shafted him. Yawn.

Everyone of them is convinced that it is possible to make fuel from water by simply violating the laws of chemistry and the laws of high school physics. The entire movement appears to be a scam that now used the ashes of Stanley A Meyer as the focal point of their wishful mantra. Some solicit funds to carry on the work. Work most likely in the local pubs at night.




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